I've had a couple of people recently ask me about my choice of Dr. McGinn for my surgery. Choosing a surgeon for my gender confirmation surgery was quite an ordeal. I was anxious to make a decision as quickly as possible for several reasons including (1) my friend Jani was going to Dr. Suporn in Thailand and if I chose him, we were going to go together, (2) some surgeons have a long waiting list, and (3) some surgeons seem to recommend or require genital electrolysis before surgery and others recommend against it. I was under a lot of pressure to make a decision by around September of last year, because I wanted to get a date and get started on preparations.
So I scoured the internet for information about SRS surgeons, and I discovered several things:
- There are a handful of surgeons widely considered to be the best in their field.
- There are two basic techniques, with some minor variations by surgeon: the penile inversion and the Suporn technique.
- Almost everything you'll find is either people cheerleading for their surgeon (who is unquestionably the best in their opinion) or people trashing their surgeon due to serious complications they experienced.
- Even though some people have gone to a second surgeon for revisions, nobody has any real idea about how another surgeon's results would have compared to theirs, because you only get one shot at this.
Based on the overall sense I got from people's good vs. bad experiences and the number of cheerleaders for each surgeon, I started with a list of five possible surgeons: Marci Bowers, Toby Meltzer, Dr. Suporn (Suporn's his first name, and what everyone calls him), Christine McGinn, and Pierre Brassard.
I eliminated Dr. Bowers (1 year waiting list -- with the way my company was going I wasn't going to wait a year) and Dr. Meltzer (way more expensive than the others, and I didn't find anything that justified this). Brassard and McGinn both seemed like great choices from all I had read, and Brassard was recommended to me by my endocrinologist. Suporn has a cult following and a significantly different technique that he invented. McGinn had the advantage of being a 3-hour drive from my house and of being trans (as is Bowers). I definitely liked the idea of having a surgeon who's been through this herself.
All of these surgeons had excellent scouting reports on the various message boards and groups. Suporn's followers were actually a bit overly fanatical. I briefly joined a Yahoo group for patients of Dr. Suporn to ask about the advantages and disadvantages of his technique. When I posted questions, I got back was a mix of useful information, advantages that didn't apply to me, and replies berating me for even considering not going to Suporn. I distilled it all down to this: Suporn's technique is probably the best option if you have a small penis and want to be able to have penetrative sex with men. I couldn't really get a convincing answer to the question, "okay, but what advantages does Suporn have if you don't have a small penis?" A chance to have a fun an adventure in Thailand and a lifetime guarantee on his work seemed to be the gist of it. I wasn't in this for the vacation, though, and a lifetime guarantee isn't so great when I have to fly halfway around the world for revisions. Airfare's not included in that guarantee.
I was still leaning towards Suporn anyway, though, because he did seem to have a great track record and going through it with Jani would have been nice. In the end, though, I decided against the Thailand option after talking to my friend Jessica. Her thoughts were that Suporn's method is more invasive, requires longer recovery time, and I wouldn't get any more depth from it anyway, since I aparently had no shortage of material to work with. This was kind of news to me, since I always thought that I had kind of a below-average sized penis, but it turns out that most of the other boys in high school were probably lying or measuring wrong (note: you're supposed to measure along the top). I decided that depth wouldn't be a problem for me with either technique, but the penile inversion seemed safer and more likely to produce good sensation (I found no data on this, but I figured less invasive means fewer nerves lost). Plus, there was no real need to fly to Thailand, and complications could leave me stranded a long way from home for quite a while. That narrowed it down to Brassard and McGinn.
In the end, I chose Dr. McGinn after going up and meeting with her in person. I'd read as much as I could find about her in advance. It seemed like people really liked the results they got with her and she had an excellent reputation, but the same was true for Brassard. She didn't have as much experience working on her own as the other surgeons on my list, but people seemed to agree that her skills were top-notch. Plus, she confirmed for me when we met what I'd pretty much already decided, that among the list of top surgeons, there were really no bad choices. She never tried to convince me that she was better than the others, only that they are all very highly skilled and none of them could guarantee I wouldn't have complications. McGinn seemed honest and forthright, and has a great reputation. Good enough for me.
Now that I'm three weeks post-op, I'm still very happy with my choice of Dr. McGinn. She's lived up to her reputation. So far, I'm happy with my results cosmetically, with sensation and with depth. Those were the main factors I was interested in going into this surgery. I'm still swollen a bit, but things are healing nicely. I'm sure I could have gotten great results with any of the surgeons I'd originally considered, but I'm glad I went with Dr. McGinn. She's been great. The results are great (I think). She's been very upfront with me throughout the process.
I told my therapist last summer that I wished there were one surgeon out there who cost twice as much as everyone else but who everyone agreed was the best. I'd have gladly justified the extra expense for a better result. But there isn't. The fact that there were lots of good choices made it harder. Most of the stuff on the internet is just people claiming that their surgeon is the best because they had such a great experience and result, which makes it harder still, and confusing because they don't have any idea what how their results would have been with another surgeon. Some of these girls seem like they'd be happy with anything that resulted in them no longer having a penis. It's really hard to read anything into the cheerleaders' comments.
You might think that having no bad choices would make your decision easier, but when the stakes are high, it really makes it stressful. If your results are less than optimal, you'll end up second-guessing yourself for a long time, and nobody really knows who's the best or which technique is the best. I'm happy with my choice of surgeons. I'd pick Dr. McGinn again. Based on my circumstances, she was probably the best choice for me. There are other great surgeons out there, too. That's really all I've got to say about it.
Benefit
22 hours ago
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Dear Suzanne,
I've been reading your blog for quite a while. Congratulations on having the courage to both go through with such a difficult & painful decision *and* to be so public with it. My understanding is that combination is quite rare.
I'm a fellow novocollegian & remember you from the days presumably long before you made your decision. I never would have guessed what was roiling within you back then, but I suppose that's the problem--few do & you must have been very isolated.
In any event, congratulations on your surgery & I wish you every happiness.
Best,
Ray
Thanks for posting this, Suzanne. So did Dr. McGinn require genital electrolysis, or is that something you did just to be on the safe side?
I have to say, I hadn't seriously considered her for a surgeon until recently, and I would be able to recover at my parents' house, which is only an hour and 20 minutes away from Papillon.
Ray: I remember you, too, uless there were two Rays, which I don't think there were. We didn't hang out too much back in the day as I recall, but we were always hanging around the same circles. You submitted a cartoon to Spiny Gumbo once. I remember that. Also, someone once told me you used to race cars. Good to hear from you and thanks! Yes, parts of me were very isolated back then. I was kind of a very private person in many ways.
Phoebe: Okay, I want to be careful not to state Dr. McGinn's opinions for her here. You should probably do a consult with her yourself. Anyway, here's my personal take on the electrolysis thing:
Dr. McGinn doesn't require it, but recommends it. Some surgeons who don't recommend it or who tell you it's not needed may be using that in part as a sales technique. They know we don't like the injections and electric shocks in our genitals. That may color their opinion on the matter, to try to appeal to us and because in most cases not doing the electrolysis won't cause any big problems that can't be fixed later.
Suporn's the only one I know who specifically does not want you to do electrolysis. Something about it decreasing elasticity in the scrotal tissue. Some people say that's bunk, too -- the fact that Suporn didn't want me to do genital electrolysis was an appealing thing, both from a discomfort and a preparation-time standpoint.
The electrolysis is probably a good idea for any surgeon you went to if you go the penile-inversion route. I don't know that any of them require it, but each may have differing opinions on how much of a necessity it is. For the Suporn technique, I'd go with his recommendation and not do it. For the others, I'd definitely do at least some electrolysis. I did three full clearings.
There are places you don't want hair growing, and inside you is right up there on the gross-out factor. Plus, if you get hair inside your vajayjay, there's no way to get rid of it (unless it's right near the outside, in which casse post-op electrolysis is possible).
I stand by my personal assessment that the top surgeons right now are probably Bowers, McGinn, Brassard, Meltzer and Suporn. If cost is a factor, Chettawut in Thailand is also supposed to be very good, and is a lot cheaper than Suporn. Alison went to him, and got very good results.
There may be other top-notch surgeons out there whom I didn't discover in my research.
Thanks, Suzanne, I appreciate it!
Of course I would do a consult with Dr. McGinn before making a decision. For me it's between Bowers, Brassard, and now I'm considering McGinn as well.
The selection process is kind of daunting =P
Dear Suzanne,
Yes, that's right, we spent a lot of time in the same circles, but only had a passing acquaintance between us. I'm impressed you knew about the cars--it wasn't me, but my parents. I would never want to be confused with my parents :)
Anyway, I'm glad you're recovering so well from your surgery & that it was such a success. Enjoy rediscovering your body!
Best,
Ray
Suzanne, Dr. Brassard recommends against genital electrolysis, unless it's done way ahead of time (as in years) and there is a guarantee (if such a thing is possible) of absolutely no regrowth. Otherwise, he'd rather take care of hair follicles himself.
I hope I won't have a problem with hair in unwanted places. I'll have to trust my advisers. :)
I didn't know that Brassard recommends against it. That's interesting, and highlights why choosing a surgeon can be so nerve-wracking.
Brassard, McGinn, Bowers and others are using variations on the same technique. Maybe some are better than others at removing hair folicles during surgery, but I'd bet their results are pretty close. So there's probably a right and a wrong answer to the question, "should I get genital electrolysis?" That answer probably doesn't depend on your surgeon (except maybe for Suporn, but I'm not sure about that, either).
Still, each surgeon has their own recommendation on whether you should do it or not. I don't know. Maybe they don't really know. Maybe they think they know but they're wrong.
I said in my diary about the operation that I felt some relief immediately after surgery was over that all these questions were now moot. I'm still glad about that. I'll let you pre-op girls worry about which way to go with those questions, since what's done is done in my case. I doubt the electrolysis question is much of an issue for most people, whether you have it or not. McGinn recommended it, but was not insistent on it. In the end, most of us decide to trust our surgeon's opinion over others.
Still, this would be a good discussion topic over at the TRC forums.
Hi Suzanne,
I just wanted to drop you a quick note to thank you for this rather objective look at choosing a surgeon. I have a girlfriend who just came back from Trinidad, and as you noted, she is quite the Bowers cheerleader. Still I have been on the fence for quite sometime, though I was leaning towards McGinn. Your post(s) did nothing to assuage me from my leanings, though they didn't necessarily reinforce them either.
Anyway, Thank you for your thoughtful post on choosing s surgeon, and then the multiple posts on the whole experience.
I wish you all the luck, love and well-being in the world. May your recovery go smoother than expected!
Lizbeth
For what it's worth, I think McGinn's great. I highly recommend her. I haven't dealt with Bowers, Suporn, Brassard, or Meltzer, though. I'm sure they're each outstanding, too, from all I hear.
I'm happy if this documentation of my experiences helps your decision. I try not to gloss over anything.
Being a "Meltzer girl" I'm biased. Regardless, I know a number of Suporn girls and they had their share of problems including tissue death post op which required revision. Any single step VAG procedure carries greater risk for tissue death due to the amount of surgery done in that localized area. Even if Suporn offers a "lifetime warranty" he and his office is half way around the world and getting any post-op care requires a very significant amount of travel. As much as Suporn claims, his VAG procedure is a modified version of the classic penil inversion procedure. The choice of surgeon is a very personal one based on numerous factors. There are no "poor" surgeons on your list, and nothing wrong with your choice. Those who criticize or berate your choice has no business doing so and are trying to impose their values upon you. Good Luck, with your up surgery which is not far away. If you are curious, I wrote about my trip to Greenbaum several years ago on my blog. Now that all those years have passed and everything works as they should, life is good :)
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I've been following your blog for about a month now, and, I really want to say that, as a 16 year old MtF with a whirpool of issues besides, you have provided the now only ray of light(my iPod just broke) in my otherwise inexpresible blindfold of surpressed emotions. I hope that one day, I will be able to embrace life and all that goes with it just as I once did, and as you do every day. You have helped me, and I thank you, very, very much.
vote? i think you should highlight this entry with it's own permanent hyperlink. a highly recommended read this one if you only read one!! (but who can only read one?)
i will admit /now/ that i had been quite worried about how quickly the surgical portion of your personal journey was scheduled relative to your announcement of being transgender. i thought i was informed. was this not a mandatory two year wait process? with surgeons outside the states having fewer pre-qualifiers for candidacy? were decisions being rubber stamped in express mode by those who would financially gain?
did anyone at new college know suzanne besides scott? we had so much fun and a few tears together. you were in my top 5 of confidants. double dates. not a clue...
it is less than two years since i last got to laugh along side scott's voice. a few months later and i got word of the email to the guys... a few more months before i found out your new name. the clayton portion did not surprise me ; )
silly me. did i tell you i wanted to see scott. one last time. to talk to him again. to hug him. and get a chance to say goodbye. before he was gone. once i spoke with suzanne... the focus is on saying hello!! i appreciate that thru scott i came to know a role model for truth to one's self.
love you, dearest suzanne!! love you much!
mend well and healthy...
-m-
its so funny how girls always trash talk the surgeons they did not go too (rapunzel) she says many girls have tissue death with suporn, she sounds bitter to me beacuse she choose meltzer
a surgeon that doesent even give you a clitoral hood lol,
a hole with one button up top and a vagina that is appalingly low on orgasms,
i know two young girls that went to meltzer and rarley orgams
as far as suporn giving death tissue i rarley hear that from suporn girls i know,
and all the post ops that i see orgasmic happy in life with a sex life afterwards, are all girls that went to thailand,
i think thai surgerons are better at saving or placing nerves in the right spots,
meltzer not so much
You *definitely* do not have to go to Thailand to be orgasmic with a happy sex life. I can vouch for that, personally.
I've heard good things about Meltzer, and the only complaints I've heard are that he hasn't innovated his technique as much as some of the younger doctors and that he costs too much.
I think there are quite a few very good choices in surgeons. I'm very happy with my results from Dr. McGinn, but I'm also quite sure I'd be happy with results I might have gotten from any of the other surgeons I considered seriously.
If I had it all to do over again (ugh! God, no), I'd go with McGinn again, though. She was a great choice from among several great choices.
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